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What issues do we draw the line on?

Posted by Max Barron on December 26, 2008

While sitting in the quagmire of D.C area traffic on my way home today I was tuned into 630am talk radio.  I was listening the the Sean Hannity show (stand in host today) and the host posed an interesting question: “What is the most important issue that we, as conservatives, should draw the line on with the incoming Obama administration?”.  I would have called in and given my answer but, alas, I do not carry a cell phone anymore (they’re a menace).  So instead I figured I would blog it.  I also figure that I will take it one step further and ask all of you to post up your answer to the question.

There are many issues on which we can and should take a stand.  FOCA, energy, foreign policy, taxes, etc are all very important.  What I want to know is which one do you think is the most important.

Here is my response:

We should fight the redistribution of tax payer wealth and the welfare system.  Yes I know, those are two issues.  However, I think that they go hand in glove (especially since the former is essentially a form of the latter).  The reason that I think that this is the most important and pressing issue is fairly simple and can be summarized with one word.  Socialism.  Socialism (economic justice as the liberals call it) fails every time.  Not only does it fail miserably but it also topples economies and breaks the back of a nation each and every time it is implemented.  Now, I know what some of you are thinking: “Redistributing tax dollars isn’t complete socialism.”  My response – Yes it is.  It may not be complete control of all enterprise and our daily lives immediately… but once you have this tax plan the rest is inevitable.

Here is what the redistribution of wealth means for us.  Success, should you be fortunate enough to achieve it, will be penalized in the form of taxation.  What is the point of putting in all of the time and effort, the hard work, the blood, sweat, and tears to become wealthy and successful if you are going to wind up paying so much more in taxes that you may as well not make that extra money.  Why would people continue to strive for excellence and individual worth when you can sit back, do very little, and let someone else carry the load?  As things are right now 40% of the nation does NOT pay income tax.  That’s right, not a bit of those heinous taxes.  They do, however, receive the same benefits as those of us that pay income tax.  Under the Obama plan that 40% (and that figure would likely increase greatly) will get a check.  Yup, the people that don’t pay get paid instead.  The arguments in favor of this plan are based solely on class warfare.

The “wealthy” already carry the burden.  The already provide the jobs, the investments, and plenty of tax dollars.  Under this tax plan those same individuals will, in essence, pay directly into well-fare as well.  Why should the entrepreneur that worked hard and took opportunities to the betterment of their lives be punished for their success?  This isn’t a simple matter of raising taxes on a higher income bracket.  No, this is cutting taxes further for people that already don’t pay them and forcing the tax payers to give the untaxed a hand-out.  This IS socialism.  What’s more is that the motivation for success dwindles.  People will stop trying.  This will cause a sharp decline in business creation (thereby job creation), innovation, the standard of living, and a rise in unemployment.  If you ever want an example of trickle-down economics… Raise taxes on the wealthy and businesses.  They pass the buck on to the consumer (that’s you and me) in the form of higher prices for goods and services.  Isn’t there an old adage about this?  Something to do with shit and a hill?  However, prices can only be raised so far before people will simply no longer purchase the product.  This leads to businesses being shut down and unemployment for the workers.  That means that there is less wealth for the government to repossess.  Eventually the government will have to lower that income threshold for the higher taxes.  This will continue until there is nothing left to tax.  If you don’t believe me ask the U.S.S.R. oh wait… It no longer exists.  Hey, you can ask Venezuela and Cuba.

You see?  It leads to failure of the economy.  When the economy fails so does the nation as a whole.  National security disappears.  Standard of living plummets.  Education goes into free fall.  The entire system collapses.

I know what some will say in response to that: “Well, that isn’t the most important because at most Obama has 8 years.  A new president can reverse that.”  To that I reply: “Once the system is in place it is fait accompli.  It is immeasurably more difficult to remove a system of hand-outs once they are in place.  People are not likely to give up their free money.  *cough*welfare*cough*”  You see, if we allow Mr. Obama to put this tax plan in play, mark my words, we WILL have socialism.  The ground work is already laid with the recession (courtesy of Congress) and the bailouts (ala Bush).  We are on the precipice… it won’t take much of a shove to send us tumbling, irreversibly, down that hill.

What do you all think?  What do you think is the most important issue to take a stand on and why?  Comment away.

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10 Responses to “What issues do we draw the line on?”

  1. I would think SCOTUS/Fed Court appointments and Constitutional revisionism would be high on a conservatives list. Twitter = @jgillmartin

    • Interesting point. Obama will at least get 2 appointments… possibly a 3rd. Loading the court with activists is definitely not something that this country needs. However, any legislating that they do from the bench can be reversed eventually. Also 2 appointments that he gets will not likely tip the balance of the SCOTUS. The fed appointments are a bit different though. Interesting point. The impact that they have could be devastating to the legal system and to our individual freedoms. I think that there are enough checks in place to prevent most of it from happening though. Between appeals and judges not wanting to get overturned… In the end, for the most part, their decisions can be reversed or overturned eventually. (it may take a while and those precedents will be painful in many cases…).

      Good point and definitely worthy of a stand. Allowing activists to legislate from the bench is always dangerous.

  2. kathie said

    If we cannot and do not protect the most innocent of all of us from being murdered in what should be the safest place on earth…a mother’s womb…no one in government can tell me they care about my health insurance or my taxes or care about the dignity of the aging. No amount of money I have or do not have can justify the genocide being committed in this country. FOCA is the #1 issue because it not only legalizes the continuing murder but it does so right into the birth canal, tax payers will pay for it, and parents will have no say over their daughter as of her 13th birthday. And, as a matter of fact, the father of the child has no say. Ok, so that’s it. The basic right to life of the unborn baby…human baby (it’s not a potato) if not protected opens and is opening a horrendous can of worms of who else can we kill when it suits us.

    • Kathie, great point! I agree that FOCA is a huge issue and we must draw the proverbial line in the sand. Don’t forget that FOCA also allows for Partial Birth Abortion! It also forces ALL hospitals to provide abortions (this will likely close the doors of all church sponsored free clinics). Abortion on demand was not intended in Roe V. Wade… Nor was removing parental consents.. Most certainly not tax payer funding (for uninsured) and forcing insurance companies to cover them (for the insured). FOCA is an abomination!

  3. kathie said

    Indeed regnatpoulus and thank you for bringing up the other points I forgot! It’s so scary that far too many people don’t even know what FOCA is. Now, just to add to your comment about clinics…it’s not just clinics. One third of ALL medical facilities (including hospitals) will close because they are Catholic owned and operated. Also, some of the hospitals that currently carry a Catholic-approved name (such as St. John’s), although owned by a conglomerate, will have the name removed. And these aren’t even part of the one-third that will actually close.

  4. kathie said

    http://www.stoptheabortionbailout.com

    Obama planning billion-dollar ‘bailout’ for abortion industry
    Jim Brown – OneNewsNow – 12/18/2008 6:00:00 AMBookmark and Share

    Money 2A pro-life group in Washington has launched a campaign to oppose what it calls president-elect Barack Obama’s planned $1.5 billion “bailout” of the abortion industry.

    Last week, the Obama-Biden Transition Project posted a report on its website that calls for dramatic policy reversals on abortion, including $1 billion in taxpayer money for international abortion groups like Planned Parenthood. The report, titled “Advancing Reproductive Rights and Health in a New Administration,” also calls for a 133-percent increase in funding for the Title X program, which funds Planned Parenthood clinics across the country.

    Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the Susan B. Anthony List, is hoping a Republican-led effort in the Senate will block Obama’s plan to substantially increase taxpayer funding of Marjorie Dannenfelserthe abortion industry.

    “This billion-dollar bailout of the abortion industry comes at a time, number one, when the economy is suffering dramatically with true need. And number two, it communicates an incredible depth of arrogance, especially when you consider that the vast majority of Americans — men and women, no matter who you talk to — they don’t believe that people who don’t believe in abortion should be funding it,” she contends. “Most Americans don’t believe that we should be funding abortions, especially in a time of economic crisis.”

    The Susan B. Anthony List has started a “Stop the Abortion Bailout” campaign designed to recruit thousands of activists to send letters to their senators “with the goal of securing the 41 votes necessary to sustain a Senate filibuster of the abortion bailout.”

  5. If we don’t challenge Obama’s eligibility to be President, conservatives will have completely missed the boat, and will be partly responsible for the destruction of our Constitutional Democracy.

    Anything else is secondary to the January 8th opportunity for one Senator and one Congressman to make the objection to the electoral college results. If Obama passes the tests, then fine. But so far not one member of Congress has requested, or reviewed one piece of documentation regarding Obama. Any proof to date is based on heresay, and internet based images which are not official forms of verification.

    http://larrymwalkerjr.blogspot.com/2008/12/how-gop-will-lose-200000-members-in.html

    • Thanks for the comment Larry.
      I’m afraid that I disagree with you. I believe that Obama was born in HI, unless you have some new evidence? Why he doesn’t produce his birth certificate, I don’t know. It seems a simple enough task. McCain did it, why won’t Obama? The fact of the matter is this. While a member of the Congress could raise the question and may very well be presented an original or certified copy of the Birth Certificate.. I think that it would reflect poorly on the party as a whole. Kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t. While constitutionality is important. I honestly don’t see this particular question going much further… other than to fuel the image of bigotry within our ranks. I suspect that the undoubtedly numerous members of congress that hold that same question think precisely what I am saying now. However, I am certain that they will look the other way. If they do bring it up.. well, I would PPV C-Span to watch that! Ha!

      Are there legitimate questions surrounding his eligibility? Certainly.
      Should they have been brought up? Long ago.
      Should they have been met with honest answers? Absolutely.

      Unfortunately none of that happened. I fear that we will never know the verified truth of the matter. Which is why I am focusing myself towards fending off disastrous policies. As a side note: Say Obama was shown ineligible.. Then what? President Biden? President Pelosi? Frankly, I think that those two would be vastly more dangerous for this country than Obama.

  6. Brian Boettcher said

    Conservatives have little public standing to draw lines anywhere. The past few months, coupled with the past eight years, have drained legitimacy from conservatives in key fiscal and tax matters. Estimates are that Americans have lost $3 trillion of wealth since September. Privatize Soc Sec? Not anymore. Private sector superior to government? A “conservative” administration “abandoned free market principles to save the free market system.” “Conservatives” have nominated seven of nine sitting SCOTUS justices, and Roe v. Wade stands, among other onerous precedents. For the public the line is drawn at conservative politicians, now reduced to Congressional minorities. Untrustworthy politicians have sold out conservative principles for a mess of pottage, and it will cost dearly to repurchase them. As usual, politicians are frauds, voters are dupes.

    • While your statement rings true it does not address the question. You say that we have no public standing… While that is not accurate, I understand your point. We may not have much standing with the inattentive average voter but we do still have standing with the conservative minded public. Also, we aren’t necessarily dealing with the public opinion here. I am more talking about inside of Congress. I am talking about us – the conservatives in the populous – drawing a line with the government. Naturally, our reps in Congress should fall in with us.. but I am talking about a public voice not just politicians.

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